Akai APC 25 Key

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Akai APC 25 Key

Postby whatnot » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:29 am

Hi friends,

Have two questions about the controller:

1. Can I map the 40 pads to the patterns in the Pattern Set. I enabled Program Change in the Settings but it won't help(

2. On Akai forum I read that the model does not support changing the default midi channel. Could you please explain what is it that I can not do having this restriction?

Thanx a lot!

Alex
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby planet-h » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:53 pm

Welcome to the forum, whatnot.
And thanks for your message.

whatnot wrote:1. Can I map the 40 pads to the patterns in the Pattern Set. I enabled Program Change in the Settings but it won't help(

If your pads can send MIDI Program Change events (0..63), then yes.
The 64 Pattern slots in the G-Stomper Pattern Set have a fixed MIDI mapping to program change 0-63.

More details here.
(chapter 22.4.8.1)

whatnot wrote:2. On Akai forum I read that the model does not support changing the default midi channel. Could you please explain what is it that I can not do having this restriction?

You mean what a MIDI channel is?
Please see here: https://www.noterepeat.com/articles/how-to/213-midi-basics-common-terms-explained

The only restriction you have with a fixed MIDI channel is that you can control only one mapping group in G-Stomper at once, either the global midi channel, or the sampler tracks, or the synth, but not all at once. This is because the different modules are mapped through different midi channels. If you only have one channel, the you can only control one channel.
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby whatnot » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:14 pm

Thanx a lot!)
planet-h wrote:If your pads can send MIDI Program Change events (0..63), then yes.
The 64 Pattern slots in the G-Stomper Pattern Set have a fixed MIDI mapping to program change 0-63.


How can I learn if it can or not?
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby planet-h » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:56 am

whatnot wrote:Thanx a lot!)
planet-h wrote:If your pads can send MIDI Program Change events (0..63), then yes.
The 64 Pattern slots in the G-Stomper Pattern Set have a fixed MIDI mapping to program change 0-63.


How can I learn if it can or not?

I just checked the APC 25 Key's user manual.
As this controller is designed to control Ableton, it seems that it cannot send program changes on the pads.
Actually it cannot even change the behavior of the pads to anything else than its default.

A typical MIDI controller like the AKAI MPK225 for example can send any types of messages from its drum pads (also program changes).

Sorry for not having better news.
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby whatnot » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:45 am

Thanx a million
I wanted to know for sure
Just the last one:
- what are the controllers best suited for android apps
I believe the mentioned Akai Mini is one of them?
What are other types.
Thanx in advance
Alex
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby planet-h » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:22 pm

You're welcome, Alex:).
whatnot wrote:Thanx a million
I wanted to know for sure
Just the last one:
- what are the controllers best suited for android apps
I believe the mentioned Akai Mini is one of them?
What are other types.
Thanx in advance
Alex

The problem with the mini versions of the AKAI controllers is that they all have restrictions in MIDI channel selections, pads behavior or similar.
Therefore the bigger controllers are in most cases the better choice.
The AKAI MPK225 for example has a low power mode and also the ability to use an external power supply.
The AKAI MPK MINI does not have these features.
Same applies to the AKAI pad controllers.

They have many variations, such with more pads and less keys, such with larger keyboards, such with pads only.
The rule is always the same. The bigger AKAI models are (against expectations) better for usage with mobile devices.
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Re: Akai APC 25 Key

Postby whatnot » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:28 pm

Thanx for the help!

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