Hey there,
Long time ago but now i finally found time to play a lot with the va beast and gstomper studio 2.
I can say that i have the same clicks appearing almost every time. This is sad and makes it unusable for me. Wanted to have the app as live drum machine beside my analogue setup.
Tablet: Asus transformer tf300tl
Flight mode: activated
Cache: cleared
All apps closed, power management switched to normal, energy saving settings switched off. [Edit:] No Auto-haptic setting available.
Is there a fix, too? Maybe it's the same sample rate problem?!
Another thing is that i got invited to join the 3.0 beta but accidentally clicked on the wrong (decline) button . So, it's my fault, but i'm not able to install and join that beta. Maybe you can invite me again?
Thanks in advance for any support or help here!
Cheers,
Scott
Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
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Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Hi Scott
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
The clicks should be fixed in version 3.0. Since it's going live tomorrow, there's no more need for the beta
The sample rate will be handled completely different in version 3.0. The output of version 3 is always running on the device's native sample rate to avoid the android internal re-sampler to be used. Internally you can set the sample rate as you like: 18kHz, 22kHz, 32kHz, 44.1kHz and (if available) 48kHz.
So let's see how it works with the new release.
Would be great if you could share your experience once you got it.
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
The clicks should be fixed in version 3.0. Since it's going live tomorrow, there's no more need for the beta
The sample rate will be handled completely different in version 3.0. The output of version 3 is always running on the device's native sample rate to avoid the android internal re-sampler to be used. Internally you can set the sample rate as you like: 18kHz, 22kHz, 32kHz, 44.1kHz and (if available) 48kHz.
So let's see how it works with the new release.
Would be great if you could share your experience once you got it.
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Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Great news! The update to version 3.0 is free?
Thanks for your reply!
Thanks for your reply!
Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
taerundfehder wrote:Great news! The update to version 3.0 is free?
Thanks for your reply!
Yes, sure . It's free for all owners of the G-Stomper Beat Studio full version
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Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Very good! Looking forward to this Thanks!
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Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Didn't want to post that on your Facebook page. Even if the clicks are gone, there is still some kind of a click (only) when switching between views.
Flight mode activated
All apps closed.
Don't think that it depends on my hardware?! (Asus Transformer TF300tl)
Flight mode activated
All apps closed.
Don't think that it depends on my hardware?! (Asus Transformer TF300tl)
Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
I guess, you're talking about G-Stomper Beat Studio 3.0, right?
This means, that the cpu drain is too much for your device. It also strongly depends on your android version, the early 4.0.x releases were still very cpu intensive in the drawing of the screen, android 4.2 and up is much better from this point of view.
Please try one of the following steps:
- Settings / Layout / Select Max Performance Layout
- Settings / Audio / SampleRate ... set to 32000
- Settings / Automated graphical elements / uncheck everything except the LED bars
Of course you don't have to do all of them, ideally play around with the settings to find the best combination for your device.
All of these settings will bring a massive boost of the performance headroom.
there is still some kind of a click (only) when switching between view
This means, that the cpu drain is too much for your device. It also strongly depends on your android version, the early 4.0.x releases were still very cpu intensive in the drawing of the screen, android 4.2 and up is much better from this point of view.
Please try one of the following steps:
- Settings / Layout / Select Max Performance Layout
- Settings / Audio / SampleRate ... set to 32000
- Settings / Automated graphical elements / uncheck everything except the LED bars
Of course you don't have to do all of them, ideally play around with the settings to find the best combination for your device.
All of these settings will bring a massive boost of the performance headroom.
Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Hi Andreas and others!
I stumbled over G-Stomper just last week and this could really be the hell of a tool for me (I just never got warm with the sound of RD4). Unfortunatelly, I do expect clicks and audio glitches (audio slows down) on my Nexus 7 2013, Android 5 Lollipop . A latency of 20ms did not work at all, finally I reduced tracks and set audio to normal mode with extended latency (80ms). Even then, the clicks did not vanish completely (but got much less compared to 20 or 40ms). Most disturbing are the audio glitches (slowdown/catchup of the audio speed).
My system is relatively clean with only a few apps installed. When I start G-Stomper Studio it is the only app running. This issue seems strange to me? Anybody has an idea?
Best regards,
Markus
I stumbled over G-Stomper just last week and this could really be the hell of a tool for me (I just never got warm with the sound of RD4). Unfortunatelly, I do expect clicks and audio glitches (audio slows down) on my Nexus 7 2013, Android 5 Lollipop . A latency of 20ms did not work at all, finally I reduced tracks and set audio to normal mode with extended latency (80ms). Even then, the clicks did not vanish completely (but got much less compared to 20 or 40ms). Most disturbing are the audio glitches (slowdown/catchup of the audio speed).
My system is relatively clean with only a few apps installed. When I start G-Stomper Studio it is the only app running. This issue seems strange to me? Anybody has an idea?
Best regards,
Markus
Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Welcome to the forum Markus.
And thank you for your message. Good to hear that you're enjoying G-Stomper Studio:)
First of all, what exact Android version are you running? 5.0, 5.0.1 or 5.0.2? Or any modded version?
Then, the first thing you should do is to reset the G-Stomper settings to the defaults:
System Settings / apps / G-Stomper Studio / Clear cache and data
When you did that, G-Stomper Studio comes up with 12 Sampler Tracks, 5 Synth Tracks, 4 Synth voices, AudioSystem = AudioTrack, SampleRate = native 48000Hz, and all other settings at the defaults.
Do you still notice the glitches then?
Regarding the lower latency (20ms): Yes, with the low latency setting, there may be clicks, depending on the Android version. But that should be really few. I have a nexus 7 2013 here for testing too, which runs completely clean on AudioTrack with all settings defaulted. But I also notice minor clicks with the lowest latency setting on OpenSL. What you can try is to enable the "use higher latency" checkbox in combination with OpenSL (that would result in 40ms). Think that should make it better.
Bottom line, it's all about performance. As more cpu headroom you give to the audio processing, as cleaner it runs (e.b. by disabling some of the animated ui components in the setup).
This guide gives a good direction:
http://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/pdf/G-Stomper_UserManual_Performance.pdf
Let me know if that helped
Andreas
And thank you for your message. Good to hear that you're enjoying G-Stomper Studio:)
SerrArris wrote:I stumbled over G-Stomper just last week and this could really be the hell of a tool for me (I just never got warm with the sound of RD4). Unfortunatelly, I do expect clicks and audio glitches (audio slows down) on my Nexus 7 2013, Android 5 Lollipop . A latency of 20ms did not work at all, finally I reduced tracks and set audio to normal mode with extended latency (80ms). Even then, the clicks did not vanish completely (but got much less compared to 20 or 40ms). Most disturbing are the audio glitches (slowdown/catchup of the audio speed).
My system is relatively clean with only a few apps installed. When I start G-Stomper Studio it is the only app running. This issue seems strange to me? Anybody has an idea?
First of all, what exact Android version are you running? 5.0, 5.0.1 or 5.0.2? Or any modded version?
Then, the first thing you should do is to reset the G-Stomper settings to the defaults:
System Settings / apps / G-Stomper Studio / Clear cache and data
When you did that, G-Stomper Studio comes up with 12 Sampler Tracks, 5 Synth Tracks, 4 Synth voices, AudioSystem = AudioTrack, SampleRate = native 48000Hz, and all other settings at the defaults.
Do you still notice the glitches then?
Regarding the lower latency (20ms): Yes, with the low latency setting, there may be clicks, depending on the Android version. But that should be really few. I have a nexus 7 2013 here for testing too, which runs completely clean on AudioTrack with all settings defaulted. But I also notice minor clicks with the lowest latency setting on OpenSL. What you can try is to enable the "use higher latency" checkbox in combination with OpenSL (that would result in 40ms). Think that should make it better.
Bottom line, it's all about performance. As more cpu headroom you give to the audio processing, as cleaner it runs (e.b. by disabling some of the animated ui components in the setup).
This guide gives a good direction:
http://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/pdf/G-Stomper_UserManual_Performance.pdf
Let me know if that helped
Andreas
Re: Audio Clicks on Galaxy Nexus 7
Dear Andreas!
I'm running Android 5.0.2 without any modifications.
I followed your steps (Default settings, reboot, max performance layout, flight mode, AudioTrack). Even then, there are a lot clicks and glitches, rendering the sound output pretty unusable (definetly not "minor"). With OpenSL and LowLatency its pretty much "Only clicks".
Any further ideas?
Best regards,
Markus
I'm running Android 5.0.2 without any modifications.
I followed your steps (Default settings, reboot, max performance layout, flight mode, AudioTrack). Even then, there are a lot clicks and glitches, rendering the sound output pretty unusable (definetly not "minor"). With OpenSL and LowLatency its pretty much "Only clicks".
Any further ideas?
Best regards,
Markus
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