Playing patterns with different time signature

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CyrilleB
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Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby CyrilleB » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:06 am

Using producer, I need to play a pattern several times in 4/4 and then switch to a pattern in 2/4. Then go back to the original pattern in 4/4. How can I do that?
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby planet-h » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:22 am

CyrilleB wrote:Using producer, I need to play a pattern several times in 4/4 and then switch to a pattern in 2/4. Then go back to the original pattern in 4/4. How can I do that?

Create a 4/4 Pattern in Pattern Slot A1 of whatever track you want.
Then create a 2/4 pattern on Pattern Slot A2.
Once done, switch between these patterns.

Here is how to set time signatures:
Docs at: https://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/ ... asure.html
Video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWcZrQqG79Y

Here is how to use the track pattern sets;
Docs at: https://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/ ... neSet.html
Video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN9LbEo8vys

Here is how to use the track pattern sets;
Docs at: https://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/ ... anger.html
Video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgUpipW315k

Please check out the docs ...
https://www.planet-h.com/documentation/

... and the video tutorials
https://www.planet-h.com/documentation/tutorials/
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby CyrilleB » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:15 am

Thanks for those informations. I understand the basic concept, but even after watching the tutorial and documentation, I can't figure out the procedure to do this in a quick and efficient way.
I've spent several hours trying but ended up with patterns running at the wrong tempo and the wrong sounds.
I have a simple 4/4 drums pattern (kick, snare, hi-hat). At some point in the song, there a time signature change (2/4). I just want to copy the original pattern (including the same tempo, effects and sound) to a new pattern in 2/4. Is there a quick way to do this without having to re-create a new pattern everytime from scratch? What I mean by pattern is the complete drums sequence (kick, snare, hi-hat) including the dynamics, effects, EQ and timing settings
Thanks for helping
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby planet-h » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:32 am

CyrilleB wrote:Thanks for those informations. I understand the basic concept, but even after watching the tutorial and documentation, I can't figure out the procedure to do this in a quick and efficient way.

After reading your post, it's pretty clear that what you actually want is to have a "one-timing-for-all-tracks" sequencer.
This is what G-Stomper Studio is btw..

CyrilleB wrote:I have a simple 4/4 drums pattern (kick, snare, hi-hat). At some point in the song, there a time signature change (2/4). I just want to copy the original pattern (including the same tempo, effects and sound) to a new pattern in 2/4.

Sorry, but what you say is not correct.
You actually have created a kick drum pattern, then a snare pattern, and finally a hi-hat pattern. That's 3 independent patterns. Note that each track comes with its own independent pattern sequencer, each with it's own individual timing. So when you set the steps per bar in the timing & measure section to 8 (instead of 16) in order to create a 2/4 pattern, then you only change the timing for one single track.

CyrilleB wrote:Is there a quick way to do this without having to re-create a new pattern everytime from scratch? What I mean by pattern is the complete drums sequence (kick, snare, hi-hat) including the dynamics, effects, EQ and timing settings
Thanks for helping

You can copy the entire Scene to another scene slot:
https://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/ ... part30.htm

Then set the steps per bar to 8 and the length in bars to 1 in order to create a 2/4 pattern. Just choose whatever track you like to do the change.
Finally, click "Spread across Scene" in the upper right corner of the timing & measure section to apply your timing to all track patterns in the scene.
https://www.planet-h.com/gstomper/docs/ ... part16.htm
That's just one out of many ways to achieve that. For the other ways, please read the docs, as these require a deeper understanding of the application.
Don't expect to learn the entire thing in a week. It's not without reason that the documentation is approximately 1000 pages. G-Stomper (all editions) is huge and it needs some time to get the hang of it. The docs are the most straightforward and also the quickest way to get the hang of the application. Whatever I explain to you in a discussion won't speed up that learning process. Also note that in order to understand every aspect of the docs, it's required to have at least a basic understanding of musical theory. If you don't understand some part, be sure to check out Wikipedia to get an explanation of the used terms.

Other than that, try the same with the pattern set in G-Stomper Studio (there's a free demo to try). Then you see if that fits your needs better.
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby CyrilleB » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:02 am

I've installed the Demo Studio version. But how can I test it? I can't even load or save patterns because it a demo.
I already know how to use the drum machine module. What I need to test and try is the pattern set / song arranger module. But it's not possible to do that with the demo version.
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby planet-h » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm

CyrilleB wrote:I've installed the Demo Studio version. But how can I test it? I can't even load or save patterns because it a demo.
I already know how to use the drum machine module. What I need to test and try is the pattern set / song arranger module. But it's not possible to do that with the demo version.

It's a demo, you can just test it, there is no need to save.
Creating two simple patterns with different time signatures is a zero time job.
Just place a kick drum, a snare and a high hat, then copy the pattern to another slot, then change the steps per bar to 8 in the second pattern, and finally switch between the slots while playback is running.
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby CyrilleB » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:22 pm

Yes, you're right. I thought I've had to save and load patterns first in order to use the song arranger. So I created basic patterns as you suggested and tried several configurations. It seems to fit my needs (I still need to figure out in depth all the mechanisms but so far, I got a pretty clear idea of what I can do with it). I've decided to buy the Studio version.
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Re: Playing patterns with different time signature

Postby planet-h » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:19 pm

CyrilleB wrote:Yes, you're right. I thought I've had to save and load patterns first in order to use the song arranger. So I created basic patterns as you suggested and tried several configurations. It seems to fit my needs (I still need to figure out in depth all the mechanisms but so far, I got a pretty clear idea of what I can do with it). I've decided to buy the Studio version.

Great! I'm glad to hear that GSS covers your needs.

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